Contemplating Madness

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My name is Josh, I am 20. I hate most people, yet immensely care about people I barely know. A seemingly giant contradiction, I know, but I guess that's just how I am. I love to learn about just about everything. I love science, particularly physics. I have strong opinions, yet I tend to think of myself as very open minded. Most of the time underneath it all I am a pessimist though I like to act like I'm an optimist simply because it makes things easier. More than anyone else I care about people who are hurting, whether I know them or not.

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  1. truthofgod:

    contemplatingmadness:

    Have you ever considered the idea that just as your idea of God can get around causality by existing forever, so too could the initial state of the universe? 

    By the initial state of the universe you mean what? I think by now most scientists are in agreement that the universe had a beginning and was caused. I’m not sure if there are even any proponents of an eternal universe left, unless you mean something else.

    I mean the state of the cosmos before the big bang, whatever that may be. Current theory holds that the universe could come from nothing due to quantum vacuum fluctuations. 

    The quote you posted posits a few things. First, that the universe we live in had a beginning and as such must have a cause. Then, in order to avoid the fallacy of infinite regression they state that eventually there must be a first cause that existed forever, thus needs no cause itself. This logic is sound. However, they then go further to assert that this initial cause that has existed forever must be God. I am asking, that if God can exist eternally without a cause, why then can’t you just as easily replace God with the a vacuum or perhaps the cosmos the theoretical multiverse exists in?